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Topic : Does a novel require a conflict? Unless a better writer can dissuade me I am minded to say no. The 'essential' 'conflict' is cultural. It is part of the western 'Human Condition' - Eastern - selfpublishingguru.com

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Unless a better writer can dissuade me I am minded to say no. The 'essential' 'conflict' is cultural. It is part of the western 'Human Condition' - Eastern cultures have stories without conflict.

Indeed, I'd venture the first story you ever wrote did not contain a conflict. It was entitled "Me and Mommy in the park" and was little more than a juvenile chronicle - regardless it was still a story.

My next experience comes from comedians, 'The two Ronnies' spring to mind. Their stories (jokes) had no conflict and in many examples the expected conflict never materialised. (That fact, in itself, making the story humorous). The skill of these comedians lay in how long they could entertain whilst stringing-out a simple story.

In my personal development as writer I began the exercise of how long I could go in a story without introducing a conflict. (I can do about 60k).

This is a very old debate - the defence of the argument seems to be to broaden the definition of conflict.

My current position is that conflict is not a requirement. In comedic terms - how long can you string out a joke before revealing the punch line.

I have been asked to clarify this question as it has been flagged as similar to 'Can you have a story with an antagonist?'. Antagonist is generally used with regard to character driven conflicts (Hero vs Villain). The films 'The Martian', 'Gravity' and 'Castaway' do not have antagonists because the character is alone. (Wilson is a foil). These stories are tales of struggle. Whether 'struggle' = 'conflict' is a debate in itself.


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I am not sure that you can have a good story without conflict. However, not all conflict is the same. There are three main kinds of conflict:

Man vs. Man: I think that most novels use this one as the main
conflict.
Man vs Nature: I think this is where White Fang would fit in. This is also the category where the examples that the OP used: 'The Martian', 'Gravity' and 'Castaway'. In each of them, the protagonist started in normal circumstances and was then thrown into a place where they had to fight for survival.
Man vs. Himself: This can be difficult to write if this is the only conflict. The movie "Fight Club" is the best example I can think of at 2am.

Conflict doesn't have to be ninja's attacking a hero. It can be a normal man trying to fight the insects that are killing his tomato plants. It can be a man's struggle to live his life with major depression.


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For the naysayers - here's a plot.

After teaching the final lesson of the semester, a school teacher (also a single mother) gives her mixed-race son's girlfriend a lift home. During the journey the girl asks the teacher about her boyfriend's father. The teacher, through a series of flashbacks recalls the day she met they boy's father. They met in a cafe after unsuccessfully attending the same job interview. He was an Afircan-American. Using alcohol as a catalyst they console each other . . . after which they go to her place.

They are awoken in the night. A fire breaks out in the apartment block. He saves her by passing her through a window to the fire officers. When they return to attempt save him he seems to have no interest - he perishes in the fire.

The teacher has revealed her shame- she knew her father for only one day.

Where's the conflict? How's that not a story?


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Stories need conflict - that's a rule.

Rules are there to be broken - that's another.

And there's the unbreakable one, about when the rules can be broken: when you know what you're doing.

Story when the author failed to create a conflict - through negligence, lack of skill, or burn-out, or whatever lame excuse - are boring. Yes, you can create one, and no, it won't be good.

But a conflict is such an inherent part of every known story, that subverting it can achieve great results when done right.

It's very rare the conflict will vanish completely. It may do so in some jokes, especially groaners. It may be completely vestigial in slice-of-life, documentary, mood pieces. Sometimes it will be merely implied. In more "active" genres the more likely approach is subversion: consciously "murdering" the obvious conflict and replacing it with a more subtle and less obvious one.

Let me give an example of the latter: One Punch Man manga. It's humorous, but simultaneously cynically bitter. The protagonist is a superhero, who can beat every single enemy with a single punch. Which totally ruins the obvious conflict of the typical superhero story (which "One Punch Man" pretends to be). That's boring! And that boredom is lampshaded to ludicrous levels.

This is the actual conflict: man versus self; protagonist versus own boredom. He's so powerful he has no room to develop. No super-villain is powerful enough to stand in his way. And so we have the actual conflict - search for friendship, recognition, challenge, overcoming simple daily routine difficulties - all in a world wrecked by supervillains he can dispose of with one punch.


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Putting aside what makes a novel specifically, I don't believe every story needs a conflict.

I think we can all agree the phone book is not a story. But this is not for lack of conflict, but for lack of possibilities.

What makes an account into a story is the possibility for something to change. And that change must be visible before it happens. The reader must understand that "It could go like this or it could go like that" without needing to be told. (For the best stories it is usually both or neither).

The story is over once whatever it is comes to a head. Of course that story might just be a single chapter/paragraph/line of a longer story or novel.

"Me and Mommy in the Park" becomes a story when the writer is separated from Mommy and gets lost. Suddenly two possibilities spring up. Does the writer get back to their Mommy or not? I think it would be hard to phrase this story in terms of a conflict. There is certainly no antagonist.

What a conflict is, is a way to make two possibilities visible to the reader, by incarnating each possibility as a person. I want things to go down like this, but he wants things to go down like that. Bingo bango you have your possibilities. The story cannot end before one possibility asserts itself over the other. And one way to make this obvious is for one person to assert themself over the other.

Comedy routines like you mention carry a story but it is not the story as written. The story is "is this the punchline or is that the punchline?" And these stories rely on the fact you know it is a comedy routine to function. So very young children might regard the routine as "stupid" because they don't know what to look out for.

Monthy Python routines tend to carry a story as written but no punchline type of story. Those routines don't exactly have punchlines. This makes the little sketch transitions more important than you might think. It would feel incomplete for that sketch to end just before "Let's look at that handshake in slow motion".


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According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary a novel is

an invented prose narrative that is usually long and complex and deals especially with human experience through a usually connected sequence of events

Apparently, this definition (one of many, yet rather typical) of the novel is not only flexible, but also lacking any mention of a conflict being the necessary component of one.

Furthermore, none of the sources of conventional online wisdom, I have referred myself to, list a conflict as such, so I can gladly and wholeheartedly say:

NO

The conflict is not necessary.

I can expand the notion even further (challenging the definition above): the only requirement for a work of art in this medium to be called novel is length. Any result of stringing words into sentences upon reaching the required length (the industry standards vary from genre to binding choice) can be called a novel.

One can write about anything—from people to minerals—or nothing at all, one can write the whole thing without ever using the word I, one can write it as a single run-on sentence, or one can make all sentences exactly seven words—it does not matter.

Once your baby hits the required length—bam!—it's a novel, and no one can say it's not.

The real question is who is going to read it if it is one sentence/it is about a molecule/it has no conflict?

Define your target audience, that will tell you if your story needs a conflict.


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The defence of the argument seems to be to broaden the definition of conflict.

This might be true, and the defence (or offence, perhaps) of the opposing view might be to broaden the definition of story.

It could be said that a chronological list of events:

is not in itself a story, unless there is conflict.
will nonetheless contain conflict, even if none is put there consciously by the writer, and is therefore (according to the "conflict = story" view of things) a story.
is a story, but does not contain conflict (thus invalidating the "conflict=story" view of things).

Any of these things can be claimed, because the definitions of the words (like most definitions) aren't strictly defined, but the reason the "conflict = story" idea tends to stick around is that it's proven to be a useful (at least to some people) in describing the differences between things they intuitively regard as story and things they intuitively don't.

Of course, there are other ways to make that distinction. I prefer to think of stories as being about the interplay of a character's inner model of the world and the world as it actually is (for example: the detective changes their inner model to fit the reality of what actually happened, the superhero changes the world around them to fit their inner model of a world in which justice prevails, etc.).

In any case, you can, if you like, write things that you regard as stories, which you regard to be devoid of conflict. If you like writing that sort of thing, and you think other people will want to read it (or else, don't care that they won't), then go for it. Expect, however, that some people won't regard them as stories, or will see them as full of conflict.


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